An Upside-Down Podcast To Turn Your Life Around

I had a delightful conversation about my book with the brilliant and gracious Caleb Gray on his “Upside Down People” podcast. He hosts conversations that matter from Perth, Australia. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to travel to Perth and meet Caleb in person, but I’m still very grateful for our important and insightful conversation.

Listen for information, education, encouragement, and if nothing else, for Caleb’s disarming Australian accent.

Photo of Perth, Australia by Tibor Janas

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